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 Post subject: NEED A MUFFLER
Unread postPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 5:12 pm 
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Okay, I know about Chris' post regarding muffler/exhaust system, and I did not want to hijack his thread, but The Hatch sprang an exhaust leak on the way home from San Diego, and I am looking for a replacement exhaust system as well. I am currently running the bus merged collector, and the bus muffler, no-flanged, and it's pretty rusty and beat.

I was looking around and found this:

http://www.thesamba.com/vw/classifieds/ ... ?id=304670

What is the collective's feeling about this exhaust system? It looks clean and simple, and it should be pretty quiet. I know EMPI = Not So Good and ISP West even states that in their description.

It is VERY cost effective, compared with other systems...

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Nuff said! :roll:

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Hater. I like the style though, don't you? It's clean and neat, and just the tailpipe shows...

You think even the one that is ceramic coated will not last? Is EMPI really that bad?

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Hater. I like the style though, don't you? It's clean and neat, and just the tailpipe shows...



Buy it then! :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: NEED A MUFFLER
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okay, i give...

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give what!?

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Slayer wrote:
give what!?


I run a 1776 with Kads in my son's bus with a stock muffler and it is nice and quiet and hauls buttocks.


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So I've been driving the Hatch for a week since Turbo_pegleg can't, and "listening" to it there was this particular sound getting a bit louder by the mile. Much like an exhaust leak, burnt through gasket or some such. So I buy a set of flange gaskets. Jack it all up, got under it to check things out and this is the first thing I saw:









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A gasket is NOT going to "buff that out"!!! :-o








Almost putting a damper on the Hatch making it to the Classic on Saturday, I scrambled to find a fix. So I dug out my rusty but trusty old personally designed muffler system... :razz:






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Yeah, it has the ghetto retro hanger wire hold down "straps". However, this is a temporary fix and the system was designed without heater boxes. With J-tubes I had decent brackets attaching it to them. 8-[

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:???:

While not the exhaust system of my choice, there is an old saying "beggars can't be choosers".

With that being said, THANK YOU Ivan for lending me your super secret sauce personally designed exhaust system.

I have a feeling it won't be long lived on The Hatch as my lovely wife is not fond of how loud a stock muffler is, and any increase in decibel output will be met with a frown.

Besides I have my eye on an exhaust system of a different sort.

Time to look for a new engine....

THANKS IVAN!

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In my estimation this set up actually sounds lower than the previous one! :-k


And "Time to look for a new STROKER engine" could not happen soon enough! :???:

Though this knocking juan does move the Hatch about "seemingly" well enough, that knock is indeed concerning. :-s


Anyway, I highly believe you'll like the way it sounds, but a sidewinder with a more "normal" muffler instead of the MONDO that A-1 pairs it with, will do so much better! :cool:

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Sorry to burst your bubble, but Stroker motor is not what I am looking for. I want to go a 1915cc, like I had in The Shizz. I think that was the perfect size motor for me, both in power and gas mileage.

I know this will illicit a lecture about how 'much more better' a stroker motor would be, and piston size vs crank throw and blah, blah, blah, but it's what I know and what I liked before.

Maybe this is where Chris Cross will chime in and tell everyone how much he likes his 1915 in the camper...

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Look here sonnyboy, whenever I need your opinion, I'll give it to you!!! :smt018





But whatever you do, simply waiting for it to die most likely it will do so at the worst possible place AND worst time too! Trust me, it ain't no fun! :sad:




Whatever the case, I'd like to disect this one just to try to find out what the hell is "knocking" in there!?! At first glance it isn't the pulley or the fan. :neutral:

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Chime chime, eye like my 1915!!! There!!

However, I still need to do some other things for it to be completed.
Runs strong on the freeway, can be hard to start when warm (?),
want an external oil cooler, have some kind of carb issue, acceleration is not smooth.
yes I do like it.

Greg I got your text, haven't had time to respond!!

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That's okay Chris, if you are busy, means $$ coming your way, and good on ya! We can chat on the trip up to Twin Lakes! Lot's of fishing time there too, lots of time to chat.

Glad you like your 1915!

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Look here sonnyboy, whenever I need your opinion, I'll give it to you!!! :smt018





But whatever you do, simply waiting for it to die most likely it will do so at the worst possible place AND worst time too! Trust me, it ain't no fun! :sad:




Whatever the case, I'd like to disect this one just to try to find out what the hell is "knocking" in there!?! At first glance it isn't the pulley or the fan. :neutral:


I too would like to be there when the "mystery motor" is opened up. Maybe I throw a few more bucks at it and build another good spare. I can see myself swapping out motors to see which one I like better...1600dp for around town, 1915 for long trips with mountainous passes?

Either way, I'll for sure want a full flow system, with an external oil cooler and filter, like I had in The Shizz, and as of this point, I do like the dual Webber Progressives that I'm running. Would love to see them work on a 1915...

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Just figured out the mileage with MY driving: 20mpg!!! :-P

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This quote is from September 2011. That muffler is still running strong on the Plump Truck! :razz:

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Got the Plump Truck running Sunday. Washed it, sanded some of the front nose and top rust "issues" and sprayed them white. Drove it to work yesterday and today. Needs a new muffler though. The "pretty" USA made ceramic coated one had "swelled up" and cracked so it was leaking. Grabbed a rusty EMPI one from my pile but it points nearly straight up so the bumper had to be removed. Runs good! :cool:

Update: Except for the thin coat of actual "chrome" left on the rusty EMPI, it was, well, totally rusty! Not to mention the steep upward angle preventing the bumper install. So yesterday I stopped a WeeParts looking for a "cheap" EMPI muffler to replace it. That didn't happen since the "cheap" ones are over $100. :shock:

Figured to do something else! So I stopped a PeepBoys and got a beefy but short muffler for just $30, sliced the intake and tail pipes off the old muffler and welded them unto the new muffler. I'm willing to bet a cool case of Pacificos that this one will more than outlast the "cheap" hunnert dolla EMPI by far!!! :razz:


Here's the old muffler showing cracks, leaks and if you look closer, it's all "swelled up":

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The new beefy $30 one! \:D/

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(Note the EMPI one showing its rustosis) :smile:

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Now... I just got another engine back together and needing a muffler. Having had ^^^THAT^^^ past experience, I went straight for it rather than wasting time and gaining aggravation over the "cheap" empi with its 6 months life span. :roll:

Anyway, here's the short process:

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BTW, this time the muffler was only $22.00 at the peepboys! \:D/

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Back at it again! :roll:

So, not only has my hearing been deteriorating 'cause of the "kool" but LOUD sound of the sidewinder MONDO muffler, but also after 8 years so many miles, the "bling" is long gone. :sad:

Been wanting to replace it with a less noisy one for some time and this past Saturday decided to dive into it so I went looking for a suitable choice. After looking at NAPA, peep boys and O'grylies, walked from O'grylies' parking lot to AutoZone (yes, in Chula Juana they are right next to each other! :shock: ), there not only did I find THE muffler to have but it was sitting right there on the shelf!!! :-o

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This tiny muffler is perfect! About 10" long, 8" or so wide and less than 3" tall, WOW! Check out the YUGE difference! :razz:


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Using parts from my other contraption, I came up with this:

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Much better tucked in than the MONDO! :smile:

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But wait! That's not all! Now I don't have to drop the muffler to do the valves! \:D/

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