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Unread postPosted: Tue Feb 13, 2018 4:24 pm 
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One of the Propex threads I saw on the TS Baywindow or Vanagon forums tried to use the stock heater tube to carry the heat to the cab. There was not enough push from the small fan on the heater to get the heat forward. I **believe** they had to go to a Blumaxx (or similar) inline blower to provide the push. (The memory is fading for specifics. This was a few years ago.) The Blumaxx was an inline marine bilge blower that was sized very close to the size of the Bus heat tube.
Those who installed a Propex have been very happy with them!

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I do have juan of 'ems fans. May have to go with it. :-s


Still trying to figure out which tank to use and where to install it. :-k

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Like I said, where we are going you will need about 10 mexi blankets!!


You and Pyro can always spoon under Joes Mexi blanket.

#-o :smt054 :smt054 :smt054


Pretty sure that will not be happening!! :cool:

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I do have juan of 'ems fans. May have to go with it. :-s


Still trying to figure out which tank to use and where to install it. :-k

Do you mount your fan before or after the heat source? Does your fan have metal or plastic blades? Do you know where I'm going with this?

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Yes. :neutral:

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Still trying to figure out which tank to use and where to install it. :-k

Personally I'd prefer the flammable gas outside the vehicle but you have the belly pans to deal with. If you decide to go with an inside tank the boating community and West Marine may be your friends. Boats have a lot of propane issues to deal with and West sells prefab propane enclosures. You probably could get design and engineering ideas from boating sites and the West Marine catalog.

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Thanks for the tip Larry! I did find a couple of options, a small 1 gallon tank and a tall & narrow one. Now, it is said that it should be placed outside, however, we've had one or two inside forever without any issues. Properly secured should be fine. :neutral:

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I’m thinking a 1gallon tank is NOT adequate for more than 2-3 nights not to mention the needed heat for mornings! Or while in route

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So why not have a small tank while in route and have a large tank on the outside while camping!!

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The small canisters are just over 1 pound. The one I just ordered is 4.25 lbs. I do not run the heater over night, only while driving and maybe for a few minutes before crashing for the night. I believe it will work fine for the use I'll give it. :-k

Here's the "tall'N'skinny" juan from West Marine for $209 (aluminum) and measures 22.5" tall by less than 7" around, capacity 6lbs. which equals to 1.4 gallons:

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Here's the shorty, just under 12" tall (or short) by just over 9" around. Only about 3 pounds heavier than the tall juan. Capacity of 4.25 lbs. At West Marine for $109 but I "Amazoned it" for just $46. :razz:

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Amazon calls its capacity at 1 gallon. I'm gonna try with it first and iffin I needs more then try the tall juan. :cool:

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Don't forget the carbon monoxide alarm?
Camping word has a sale on tanks and alarms!

https://www.campingworld.com/maintain-your-rv/propane

Can the tanks used in BBQ grills be used for this application?

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Propane is propane. I'll need to get a regulator but West Marine sells them for a steep $80. :-x

Will be hitting the depot for it. :-/


Also, though I may get the alarm, I believe the need is when having an "open flame" burning up the oxygen for heat. The way the propex works is by heating the air in the cabin. The heat "source" as in burning of the propane is self contained and has its own intake and exhaust outside the cabin. :lol:

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Agree that everything at West Marine is expensive. It is a good place to shop, though.

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Even in their "reviews" of the aluminum tank, a customer, though recommending the tank itself, complained that the price was exorbitant and for others to look for it elsewhere! Well, I did, even on its manufacturer's website but apparently they do not sell directly! :roll:

On the "duration" of the gas supply, according to what I read in thedrambadotcom's vanAgone forum, it gives plenty of hours of continued operation. Which is why again, I'm not overly concerned with it. If at continued use a small canister burning in a Buddy Heater will last a straight 8 hours, the jug I'm getting should be more than enough for my purpose. :neutral:

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They also have this really "cute" juan for $155.... :smile:

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Viking Cylinders are built with safety as the first priority. Lighter than aluminum and steel, this propane tank is made of a rugged, non-corrosive three-layer composite that was built with optimum safety in mind. It features a one-piece seamless inner layer and a visible gas level. Ergonomic handles make it easy to carry and stack. Has a QCC thread-on valve for QCC and POL connections. 11lb. capacity (2.6 gal.), 15-1/4"H x 12-1/2"W. Empty Weight: 9.1lbs. One-year warranty.



However, on some of the reviews it's stated that some propane suppliers are reluctant/refuse to refill it. That right there was a clincher for going against it, not to mention its size. :-s

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pyrOman wrote:
not to mention its size. :-s


so size does matter

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Why not get one of those cheap exchangeable canisters at Lowes and bungee cord it to the roof?


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Why not get one of those cheap exchangeable canisters at Lowes and bungee cord it to the roof?



:-/

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Dan wrote:
Why not get a Dodge Caravan and be done with it?



...there I fixed it for you.

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Why not get a Dodge Caravan and be done with it?



...there I fixed it for you.


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