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Unread postPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 1:43 pm 
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Not sure where I asked this or if I have over here, but where do you guys buy GAS for your mig?

Outside of Harbor Freight, where is a good place to pick up some gloves, maybe a jacket, and a blanket for welding? Vices?

Where do you guys buy raw sheet metal....?
What gauge sheet metal was used on OEM German buses?
Metal type?

Who and Where is a good local supplier for raw sheet metal?

I have more extensive damage and "sheistiness" going on with my rear corners....

I have finally got my welding rig....need to get some supplies....hook a brutha up!


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Unread postPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 4:16 pm 
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Gerson sells entire corners.
Not inexpensive.

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Unread postPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2011 5:47 pm 
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yeah i know...$$$$. that's why i am laughing....


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Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:41 am 
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thanks Bill.trying to see if i can find corners?? or..if gerson corners are reasonable....or will i have to piece sheet metal together. the real pillar on the right side of the engine compartment is hammered. None of the welds on the rear right are even connected. rear frame rail (c rail) isn't welded to anything...ohhhhh :-({|=

anyway, at a minimum i will need to get some sheet metal and piece some things together.

Where is a good supplier for sheet metal.

Finally got a mig. My cousin had a Lincoln mig with bottle and cart that he came into and is now mine. \:D/


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Unread postPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2011 8:51 am 
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This is the pillar I NEED for sure...might have to go to Gerson for this one...saftery issues without it being welded...


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i will have to check out your bus. some pieces are made by gerson. he is shipping me stuff soon for my panel.

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let me know when you want to check it out. Today i will be removing the the cheesy riveted sheet metal job and a ton o bondo from the tail light area to see what i actually have goin on back there...getting ready to head out to the garage now...

I already got the battery tray....


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Unread postPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 10:12 am 
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bill may wrote:
i will have to check out your bus. some pieces are made by gerson. he is shipping me stuff soon for my panel.



Bill is he still making the pieces? or has this stuff already shipped?
Would it be cheaper to share the cost of shipping? I don't how much you are getting shipped, but just a thought. I am going to put my order in as soon as he gets back to me...hopefully today?


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I believe your first questions have not been addressed! I get my bottles "replaced" at San Diego Gas and Welding Supply. "Replaced" because even though it is "your" bottle, it's easyer and faster to just swap it than to wait for them to fill it up for you. However, my weldOman has an aluminum bottle that he has refilled when it runs low. For raw metal, there are quite a few "metal marts" around San Diego. Steel has skyrocketed in price in the last few years though. So when you compare the price of flat stock steel that you have to form into whatever shape versus an already pressed/stamped to fit part from Gerson, you'll realize they are not really that expensive at all! Quite a few people already have wasted $$$$ on ill fitting parts AND their labor after attempting to make them fit and welded, only to tear it all up again and replacing them with Gerson metal. Caveat emptor! ;-)

At the metal mart you'll usually find a rack with odd cut leftovers they normally sell for cheap. Say you come in needing a few small pieces cut a certain size and in your little jap ricer. They'll cut it all up for you so it'll fit nicely in the trunk, and throw the leftover pieces in that rack. The "cut" will cost you too! But you may very well have to use this service if you do not have the means to cut it to correct size when you get that huge sheet home!?! :???:

I've had them cut some pieces to my predetermined size. Also have bought a hole sheet when I was doing the floor of my trailer. :cool:

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Unread postPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2011 12:41 pm 
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I might need to get some small pieces of sheet metal depending on what I get from gerson....nothing trick though...

Cool....plus i want to do some practice too, and having some metal would help...


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Desired tools for the weldOman in you:

Shears (right, left & straight)
Brake (sheetmetal bender)
Roller ("rolls" a curve unto the metal)
Clamps (C-type, "deep throat")
Visegrip type clamps
Magnets
Hole puncher
Bench vise
Bench grinder
Hand grinder
Primer
Paint

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pyrOman wrote:
Desired tools for the weldOman in you:

Shears (right, left & straight)
Brake (sheetmetal bender)
Roller ("rolls" a curve unto the metal)
Clamps (C-type, "deep throat")
Visegrip type clamps
Magnets
Hole puncher
Bench vise
Bench grinder
Hand grinder
Primer
Paint

:cool:


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Thanks....I have like 5 things off that list!!!! hahaha....CL?


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tnc19 wrote:
pyrOman wrote:
Desired tools for the weldOman in you:

Shears (right, left & straight)
Brake (sheetmetal bender)
Roller ("rolls" a curve unto the metal)
Clamps (C-type, "deep throat")
Visegrip type clamps
Magnets
Hole puncher
Bench vise
Bench grinder
Hand grinder
Primer
Paint

:cool:


](*,)

Ummmm...Santa? Where is dat dude????? :-k :-k :-k

Thanks....I have like 5 things off that list!!!! hahaha....CL?


They are not all necessary, just help easing the job! Also, I didn't list a hammer 'cause I figure EVERYBODY has one already! :lol:

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pyrOman wrote:

They are not all necessary, just help easing the job! Also, I didn't list a hammer 'cause I figure EVERYBODY has one already! :lol:



I have a hammer...she sleeps next to me every night, and hammers me every effin day!!!!! ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) ](*,) :-({|= :-({|=


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pyrOman wrote:
I believe your first questions have not been addressed! I get my bottles "replaced" at San Diego Gas and Welding Supply. "Replaced" because even though it is "your" bottle, it's easyer and faster to just swap it than to wait for them to fill it up for you.
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I googled that and got a random other closely related links....San Diego Gas and Welding Supply?
Where is that located? Pyro?


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Down here we have one on 30th St (or so...) right off the 94 freeway. Another one in El Cajon. I pay between $40-$50 for a "refill". The more you weld the sooner you'll need a refill. However, they normally last me quite a few years! :cool:

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pyrOman wrote:
Down here we have one on 30th St (or so...) right off the 94 freeway. Another one in El Cajon. I pay between $40-$50 for a "refill". The more you weld the sooner you'll need a refill. However, they normally last me quite a few years! :cool:


As long as you remember to turn the main valve off when you are done :oops:


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Dan wrote:
pyrOman wrote:
Down here we have one on 30th St (or so...) right off the 94 freeway. Another one in El Cajon. I pay between $40-$50 for a "refill". The more you weld the sooner you'll need a refill. However, they normally last me quite a few years! :cool:


As long as you remember to turn the main valve off when you are done :oops:

i need to get my S size bottle refilled soon. about 500 lbs left in it. but if someone wants to use it up let me know. filled it is around 2000lb so it is 1/4 full. i don't have time to weld right now,but i need to get it refilled before starting on 58. it is 75%argon and 25% co2
morning Dan

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There's a Praxair near downtown SD, at the corner of Newton and Sampson. It's kind of in the hood, but close to the shipyards.
2205 Newton Avenue
San Diego, CA 92113-3619
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